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[[The Rebellious Enlightened Master Osho|Gyan Bhed]] gives the dates for the camp where these talks were given as Sep 17 to Oct 2. "Doc X" and [[Sw Anand Neeten|Neeten]] (see Osho Source Book link at his page) | [[The Rebellious Enlightened Master Osho|Gyan Bhed]] gives the dates for the camp where these talks were given as Sep 17 to Oct 2. "Doc X" gives the dates as Sep 17 to Oct 1, and [[Sw Anand Neeten|Neeten]] (see Osho Source Book link at his page) as both Oct 1 and Oct 3 in different places. Another source says Sep 17 to 30, while a calculation based on the frequent format of one discourse on day 1 and two each day thereafter makes it 17-29. Your pick! | ||
All sources at least start on Sep 17, and the agreement of two reasonable sources on Oct 1 makes that look pretty good, besides being in the middle. And throw a couple of ''[[Talk:Early Talks|Early Talks]]'' into that time frame and it's almost filled up, in the sense of conforming to the "formula" of two a day after the first day, while still leaving the details of which discourse when a bit vague. | |||
Gyan Bhed is not entirely clear about the location of the camp, referring to both Srinagar and the Kesar Valley. Neeten | Gyan Bhed is not entirely clear about the location of the camp, referring to both Srinagar and the Kesar Valley. Neeten also has both but another source goes with Kesar Valley, which is where Pahalgam is, so we'll go with that, since we have to arrive at Pahalgam somehow for the two ''Early Talks'' mentioned above and Osho's visits to the graves of Moses and Jesus. And an interesting factoid from the trivia bin: Pahalgam means "village of the shepherd", which turns out to mean exactly the same as Gadarwara. | ||
While we're here, it is also worth considering the time Osho spent in Srinagar prior to the camp. It is not germane to ''Drishti'' but helps to complicate matters regarding another book, ''[[Sambodhi Ke Kshan (सम्बोधि के क्षण)]]''. Two sources for that book report talks on Sep 14 in Mumbai, which would be tight at best, but Gyan Bhed and Neeten's info is prohibitive, having Osho arriving in Srinagar four and ten days respectively before the camp to take in the natural splendour of the area. -- updated [[User:Sarlo|doofus-9]] ([[User talk:Sarlo|talk]]) 06:55, 18 April 2015 (UTC) | |||
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Revision as of 06:55, 18 April 2015
Gyan Bhed gives the dates for the camp where these talks were given as Sep 17 to Oct 2. "Doc X" gives the dates as Sep 17 to Oct 1, and Neeten (see Osho Source Book link at his page) as both Oct 1 and Oct 3 in different places. Another source says Sep 17 to 30, while a calculation based on the frequent format of one discourse on day 1 and two each day thereafter makes it 17-29. Your pick!
All sources at least start on Sep 17, and the agreement of two reasonable sources on Oct 1 makes that look pretty good, besides being in the middle. And throw a couple of Early Talks into that time frame and it's almost filled up, in the sense of conforming to the "formula" of two a day after the first day, while still leaving the details of which discourse when a bit vague.
Gyan Bhed is not entirely clear about the location of the camp, referring to both Srinagar and the Kesar Valley. Neeten also has both but another source goes with Kesar Valley, which is where Pahalgam is, so we'll go with that, since we have to arrive at Pahalgam somehow for the two Early Talks mentioned above and Osho's visits to the graves of Moses and Jesus. And an interesting factoid from the trivia bin: Pahalgam means "village of the shepherd", which turns out to mean exactly the same as Gadarwara.
While we're here, it is also worth considering the time Osho spent in Srinagar prior to the camp. It is not germane to Drishti but helps to complicate matters regarding another book, Sambodhi Ke Kshan (सम्बोधि के क्षण). Two sources for that book report talks on Sep 14 in Mumbai, which would be tight at best, but Gyan Bhed and Neeten's info is prohibitive, having Osho arriving in Srinagar four and ten days respectively before the camp to take in the natural splendour of the area. -- updated doofus-9 (talk) 06:55, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
About the image, Drishti2: It looks elongated, like one i saw in my perambulations. Perhaps could be compressed vertically. -- Sarlo (talk) 14:41, 10 February 2014 (PST)
of course it's stretched. so i've un-stretched it.
btw here is the original image:
प्रवचन (TOC): प्रवचन 1 : महावीर से प्रेम प्रवचन 2 : महावीर की समसामयिकता प्रवचन 3 : तथ्य और महावीर-सत्य प्रवचन 4 : संयम नहीं—महावीर-विवेक प्रवचन 5 : सत्य की महावीर-उपलब्धि प्रवचन 6 : अभिव्यक्ति की महावीर-साधना प्रवचन 7 : अनुभूति की महावीर-अभिव्यक्ति प्रवचन 8 : तीर्थंकर महावीर : अनुभूति और अभिव्यक्ति प्रवचन 9 : प्रतिक्रमण : महावीर-सूत्र प्रवचन 10 : अप्रमाद : महावीर-धर्म प्रवचन 11 : सामायिक : महावीर-साधना प्रवचन 12 : कर्म-सिद्धांत : महावीर-व्याख्या प्रवचन 13 : जाति-स्मरण : महावीर-उपाय प्रवचन 14 : महावीर : परम समर्पित व्यक्तित्व प्रवचन 15 : महावीर : अस्तित्व की गहराइयों में प्रवचन 16 : महावीर : अनादि, अनीश्वर और स्वयंभू अस्तित्व प्रवचन 17 : महावीर के मौलिक योगदान प्रवचन 18 : वासना-चक्र के बाहर महावीर-छलांग प्रवचन 19 : महावीर : सत्य अनेकांत प्रवचन 20 : महावीर : परम-स्वातंत्र्य की उदघोषणा प्रवचन 21 : अनेकांत : महावीर का दर्शन-आकाश प्रवचन 22 : जागा सो महावीर : सोया सो अमहावीर प्रवचन 23 : महावीर : आत्यंतिक स्वतंत्रता के प्रतीक प्रवचन 24 : दुख, सुख और महावीर-आनंद प्रवचन 25 : महावीर : मेरी दृष्टि में
