Talk:And Now, And Here, Vol 1

A source stated: "Contains material from The Mysteries of Life and Death." This seems unlikely, as all the material from this book is from that one meditation camp at Dwarka. Also, The Mysteries of Life and Death is estimated to date from 1971.

(But The Mysteries of Life and Death was later published in The Long and the Short and the All Ch. 5.) --Sugit (talk) 01:43, 2 January 2014 (PST)

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Neeten (see Osho Source Book link at his page) has Mysteries as a part of And Now, And Here, Vol 2, or more precisely, he says that ch 1 of Vol 2 has p 1-35 only of Mysteries. This does not avoid the problem of Dwarka since Vol 2 is from the same camp apparently. And Neeten says it was published whole in Long and Short. The 1971 date is a pub date, not a discourse date. It is not out of the question that Main Mrityu Sikhata Hoon (मैं मृत्‍यु सिखाता हूं) IS the source of Mysteries. They are both about death (Main Mrityu Sikhata Hoon means "I teach death").

But AHA! According to the CD-ROM, the text for ch 8 of the combined And Now, And Here, which is the first chapter of Vol 2, is close to identical to a significant part of ch 5 of Long and Short, so that's where Mysteries comes from, and it's not Dwarka but Bombay, Nov 4, 1969. And in fact all of Vol 2 is from Bombay, some running into 1970, and not from the Dwarka camp, so that has to be fixed. And the Hindi source for Mysteries is still not found, just the date. (CD-ROM still has it as a translation.) -- Sarlo (talk) 11:00, 14 September 2014 (PDT)

sarlo, you lost me here.

do i need to make any changes to the discourses listing? --Rudra (talk) 21:51, 14 September 2014 (PDT)

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