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Looks like this OMA entry is a redundancy. There are not two (nondual!) Master's Day Darshan 1983 events, and this guy's one track is very likely a duplicate, though 18 seconds longer, of the one in Darshan Master's Day 1983. -- doofus-9 (talk) 18:37, 5 February 2015 (UTC)


In 1983-07-06 Master's Day Darshan ~ God is Wild, do you mean track 3? That is a song, it goes indeed "Lord of the Full Moon ...". But the one track we have here is instrumental, and a well known one. Click on the song to see the other instances. The title is confirmed on CD covers.

So the questions are that 1. there is a duplicate name, not unusual, but more important 2. was this really played on Master's Day Darshan 1983 ?

This info is only based on what was written on these 7 DVD's full of music that I got from Tobias. There is a directory "Master's Day Darshan 1983 Lord of the Moon" with one mp3 "Master's Day Darshan 1983 Lord of the Moon.mp3". This would usually be from an MC (audiotape) with that written on it, but of course I don't know if that was the case here.

Anyway, I have found another instance of Darshan Master's Day 1983 on some torrent, that was ONE long mp3, not divided in tracks, and it has only that same material as we have, in the same order. And NOT Lord of the Full Moon (instrumental). So the question remains: was this really played on that day ? It does sound like a live recording, the only one, as it's different from the other recordings, which seem studio recordings. -- Sugit (talk) 06:01, 6 February 2015 (UTC)


Very impressive! I was feeling like i wasted your time, but maybe, yes, the question of when WAS it then? ... The birthday celebration of that year not only is adorned with that name, Lord of the Moon, but it is the only celebration of that year with only one audio record, ie all the others have a darshan and a satsang, but the birthday has only one, not called a darshan but having that form. Perhaps this is part of the birthday's missing satsang, just mistitled. -- doofus-9 (talk) 07:51, 6 February 2015 (UTC)


No no, no waste of time, love it! And this satsang idea is a great one. Both 1982 and 1984 have darshans with mostly songs and satsangs with only instrumental music. So most likely that is a recording of the satsang? Reason enough to change the name. --Sugit (talk) 09:21, 6 February 2015 (UTC)


So I have renamed this page as a test. Making the names of all darshans and satsangs consistent is a long overdue project.

Sarlo and Rudra, how about this one: YYYY-MM-DD <Feast name> <Satsang/Darshan> ~ <Specific name> --Sugit (talk) 09:43, 6 February 2015 (UTC)


Anything like that seems fine to me if it doesn't create any name issues such as non-recognition, eg someone looking for a particular album they know the name of and this re-naming obscures it. I believe in Books there is a fairly strong imperative to stick with names as originally given, ie on the MC or CD cover, but that may not apply here. Browsing in a particular year is easy enough with almost any naming system, but in the whole OMA may be more challenging. I'm okay with a hodge-podge naming system too.

This particular tape's problems have not yet been fixed however, since there is already another satsang on this date. It is probably NOT a Master's Day tape at all, at least of 1983. My money is on the Birthday satsang. Perhaps someone somewhere along the line mixed up Master's Day with the Master's Birthday. -- doofus-9 (talk) 19:40, 6 February 2015 (UTC)


Sorry, I did not check well enough and missed the already known satsang of 1983-07-06. So this track is clearly not of the 1983 Master's Day Satsang.

You rightly say that any titles that are written on covers should remain (the main part of) the title, I agree. My proposal only applies to the festivity satsangs and darshans. Of these, for many there is no known cover, but where they are available they have a title that is part of my proposed system. So the recognition will not be less, I would say.

Or do you think if the cover says "The Forerunner" it is less clear when we change that to <Date> <Feast name> Satsang/Darshan ~ The Forerunner ? --Sugit (talk) 20:48, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

Conclusion

The title of this album was originally Master's Day Darshan 1983 ~ Lord of the Moon, based on the information received from the digitizer. That may have been based on an audio jacket. But it seems to be wrong.

There is already another Darshan of 1983-07-06, which name is supported by several sources and it does not contain this track. And darshans usually have songs rather than instrumental music.

Also it does not seem to be the satsang of 1983-07-06, as that album is already part of this collection.

The most likely guess is that this music is actually from the satsang of 1983-12-11, Bhagwan's Birthday Celebration 1983, as that darshan was also called Lord of the Moon. So we have changed the name accordingly. --Sugit (talk) 20:48, 6 February 2015 (UTC)